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A Friend Guest Posts About How Plagarism Affects Us All

Permalink 03:41:25 pm, by blog_angel Email , 1424 words
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This is a post by a dear friend of mine, Glenn, who mans one of my favorite blogs Man Over Board. Next to me, Glenn was incredibly upset about what happened yesterday. As a result, he asked if he could post here about the whole mess. I agreed. I'm so upset I don't trust myself to write about yet, so without further adieu, here is Glenn's post:

First of all, I thank Joella allowing me to come on her blog and guest post. I wrote the below post during the day yesterday, because I was somewhat involved with the fact that Joella must now redo her blog. In order to protect her work and her intellectual property. Because someone decided to copy her entire drop list. She must re do it so that this does not happen again. Thus leaving her with a lot of new work she must do and keeping her away from adding her daily post.

99% of all us bloggers are good people who trust each other and also look out for one another.

Follow up:

We are a small community, those of us who use Entrecard. Being such, I have seen an ethical standard we all go by. We also have TOS statements about the fact if there is an article someone would like to use, they first must ask the blogs owners permission. The person that copied Joellas list never bothered to ask, and defended their use of it, stating how they made it much better (they didn't) and that it was easy for anyone to build such a list (then why didn't they) and lastly couldn't understand what the big deal was, as it is only a blog. This persons profession is a journalist for a broadcast station that covers a large portion or three states.

I am sure Joella would rather have me talk about anything else in the post but what had transpired yesterday. But I took a day to think about it and I am just as disheartened today about this incident and by the person behind it. If this enlightens one person that doing such a blatant act as stealing from another blog, think twice. Then it was worth the time and effort it took me to write this and also for Joella to have to put in all kinds of safe guards. Lastly, shes does this as a courtesy for us bloggers to help us with saving time in doing our daily drops. She does this willingly on her own time and her own effort. She does not ask for anything in return. This is not how she should be paid back. Here is the post I was going to post on my blog, but feel it deserves to go here where it belongs and let you, her readers know the whole story.

This morning like most mornings , I went to my blog and checked my overnight stats. Within those stats I have various programs that let me know when and where any of my articles are mentioned and also where all my traffic originates from. I am sure most of you have the same programs also. Being a blogger to me is special, because I have joined a group of people who put out their own personal thoughts and work hard into them. I am especially proud because we all originate our own ideas, no matter how large or small the idea is. It is ours and therefore our property. It also affords us an opportunity to meet other good people who also have great blogs. A community in essence. I am always asking other bloggers to guest post on my blog, so that I may be able to share a new audience for them and help if I can, to see their blog grow larger with more visitors. And I also know they wish me the same. Not to mention they have great posts that we get to share with you our readers. I believe most of us when we borrow something, like a picture or a poem, etc from another source, that source is given it's due credit, with links back to the original post. Most bloggers enjoy to know that their words are being utilize by others and it helps not only get back links, but also some new readers.

This morning as I was going through my stats I noticed I was getting traffic from a new blog from Entrecard. I was going to name the blog, but in doing so, why should I give this person who plagiarized from someones blog that I think highly of, any new traffic to their blog. I know I can be vicious when I am PISSED!!!. And yes I was mad as hell, not only because they copied verbatim a drop list someone worked very hard on. But throughout the day their replies were so very nonchalant with a could care less attitude. As they also stated it's only a blog why get so worked up? I clicked on the backlink to find an exact duplicate of "Above The Crease Droplist" which is a list that Joella from at Blogs With Wings created. It's a wonderful list to help us bloggers to become more efficient and quicker when making our daily drops. That list was a work of love and many long hours and continues to be, because Joella does it on her own!!

The owner of this blog that STOLE the entire list verbatim, also added how we should click on links of ads, as they call it" few ki$$e$" , which again if you are not aware is fraud. People pay good money to advertise on our blogs and asking other people to click on ads just to increase the click rate is again fradulent. (They later explained it was meant for people to donate money to their blog, like "buy me a beer button" but that blogger didn't have the capability to add a PayPal donation button.) I do not use blogger or blogspot so I am not sure if that is true or not, maybe someone could tell me who uses blogspot if there is a way for people to receive donations. Why they felt they deserved a donations is a mystery to me.

Most of this person's blog is basically links to other blogs/websites about stories they saw and their contribution is a sentence to tell people to go check it out. I have NO PROBLEM with that. If you believe writing a blog is about surfing the net and finding stories and making a post filled with someone else's links, then that is 100% legal and fine. It would be easier for this person to just get one of the auto-pilot blog set ups and fill it with Google ads. Hell I am sure we would all love to be able to put up a new post each day and be done in less then 15 minutes and feel as thou we truly believed we did a good job. That is their right to do so. I myself would rather just go to the front page of Yahoo, MSN or Google and get the links they find instead. They also have a TOS on their blog that states and I quote blank is intended for your own personal use. If you download or print something from my site, you should retain any advertisements, copyright or related proprietary notices which the material contains. You may not reproduce, transmit, license, sell or otherwise exploit for any purpose any content that appears on my site without my prior written consent. Well then aren't all of us afforded the same rights.

Lastly this person is new to EC, perhaps I could say they were not aware, but that is not the case here. I also feel like an idiot because I advertised on this site when it first appeared. Before I had known this was how the blog was being run. I hold this person to a higher standard, because in many places through out the blog and advertising sites like EC, they tell us that they are a professional journalist. I hope they don't think this is the wild west and they can do whatever they please, to whoever they want. I can only imagine what their employers might think of this blog and if this is something they also condone? Does his professional employer merely copy the New York Times, then put their names to it? I doubt it, it's called ethics.

9 comments

Comment from: Denise [Visitor]
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Wonderfully put Glen.

I have yet to start my blog but one thing I am aware of is respect towards fellow bloggers. The concept to copy what took hours of labor for Joella to do then in minutes post it on a blog then take credit for the work is an insult. If this so-called journalist has any ethics he would admit what he did and remove the list. But his obvious attitude is he can do whatever he wants BUT don't do the same to him.

He gives those of us in the media a bad name.
01/23/10 @ 17:17
Comment from: Man Over Board [Visitor] Email · http://man-over-board.com
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Thank you Denise and I wish you nothing but the best for your blog when you get it going. Please let us know when you do. As I said we are not a large community with EC, but we try our best to help one another by comments and guest posting, giving awards, being a sounding board or just reading what we write about.

It helps all of us bloggers at times to get a nice pat on the back, because many days either you just don't feel up to it, or because you took a subject, researched it and believed you might have made a small difference to someone or something.

I am the first one to admit if I made a mistake and I have and I will more then likely make more mistakes. But so what? Acknowledge your mistake, learn from your mistake and if you hurt anyone from that mistake simply apologize.

Maybe I made a mountain from a molehill, I am not sure. But I have met so many wonderful, truly honest people here from EC and a few other means, that freinds don't sit idly back and say oh well that's their problem. I guess us bloggers are different, becuase we believe that in some way our little piece of cyber-space might be of help, or laughter, poignant or sad. It is ours, comes from our hearts and minds. It is many times a soapbox and a therapist. But I know if it were 3 am in the morning and I couldn't sleep, or something was bothering me. I could go to so many wonderful blogs we have all built and help forget about our problem or better yet, receive some empathetic advice.

I think the world of Joella and we have fights, just like a brother and sister would. I have only known most of all of these fine bloggers less then 3 months. But Denise, you will come to enjoy these new found friends and I can't wait until you put down your first words. Best to you, Glenn

01/23/10 @ 18:31
Comment from: Junk Drawer Kathy [Visitor] · http://www.junkdrawerblog.com
What a shame. I had my own blatent theft from a new EC-er. He took my logo! The logo that is made up of letters that spell the name of MY blog. He actually said "Sorry. I thought it was free to take." Um, no, jerk. It's not and how would my logo with my name on it make any sense for your blog? Oh, yeah. People know my blog has a high popularity rating on EC and so you thought people would click on it. It's incredible to me 1) the lengths people will go to steal, and 2) the absolute cajones it takes to defend it.
01/23/10 @ 18:46
Comment from: Garret [Visitor] Email · http://www.needtogetsome.net/
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Great post indeed. The very last bit was the best way to put it in simplest form : "Does his professional employer merely copy the New York Times, then put their names to it? I doubt it, it's called ethics."

Most blogger's (myself included) love having their work displayed on other sites. I recently found that every day my posts are being put on another blog and I was never asked. Not once. These are not article submissions either. What's worse is there is no way to contact the owner of the site...convenient.

Article theft is a large problem out there. It seems that ethics truly are out the window.

Well written and a very important subject for new and older blogger's alike.


01/23/10 @ 21:52
Comment from: Marg Elmendorf [Visitor] · http://www.margsanimals.com/blogs
Very well said Glenn. I agree that the guy should have taken the list down. No one knows the importance of these blogs to us owners until you have done it and done it correctly like doing totally new material for your post. It sounds like we all need to have something that would keep people from stealing our material. People just don't care if they steal stuff. Guess that is why the whole world is such a mess. No one has any respect for anyone else. Nice post Glenn.
01/24/10 @ 06:47
Comment from: sheila sultani [Visitor] · http://theadmaster.net
I hate when I hear about things like this.  I don't know why you  don't put the persons blog name out there.  If you are 100% sure that they have done something wrong other bloggers would probably want to support you but can't because we don't know who did this.  I hope I haven't dropped on him or bought any ads - he doesn't deserve the traffic.  His response is more disheartening than the original offense.  

Joelle - I appreciate the time you've taken to put together such a great list and I'm sure a lot of others do also.
01/25/10 @ 09:37
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I agree with Sheila, you should name and shame this blogger. I want to make sure I'm not dropping on his blog.
01/25/10 @ 14:23
Comment from: blog_angel [Member] Email
@Sheila & @John,

Please read this post to understand why the decision was made to not name this guy publicly. Here's the most recent post:

http://blogswithwings.com/index.php/plagarism-problem-update-time-to-put-it-all-behind-us

I truly don't think there is anything to be gained by going public with this. @John if you are truly worried about dropping on this guy, just use my droplist. He's definitely not on it.:)

Thanks for all your concern and support.

01/25/10 @ 14:49
Comment from: Simon Hay [Visitor] Email · http://www.simonhay.com/
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This is the second post I've read this week about this topic. Saddens me, but doesn't surpirse me at all. Respect should be the only ethic we need. Happy blogging Glen and Joella, Simon.
01/26/10 @ 03:19

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